TITUS - THE REAL PERSON ON WHOM CHRIST IS BASED
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"Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's" - indeed.
The Gospels were written as a typo-logical comedy (a joke) for members of the elite Roman aristocracy, and then later used to create a new religion to pacify the illiterate masses of slaves involved in the Messianic movement in Palestine. I know this is not acceptable to devoted to Christians and it may take a while to be accepted, but it is, nonetheless, the full, unadulterated truth.
The only trustworthy writings we have of Jesus were penned by Josephus, a Jewish scribe for the Flavius family, and a traitor of his own people, even though his own biography is suspect. He claimed to be among the survivors of mass self-poisoning forced upon the Jews during the sacking of Jerusalem by Titus, who then took him as a prisoner and exchanged his freedom for his help in military intelligence in subduing the rest of Judea.
If you compare the content of Josephus' "The War of the Jews" with the sequence of events in the Gospels, you will see that the actions and events described of Titus and his campaign of war in Judea, are exactly the same sequence of actions and events attributed to Jesus in the Gospels. So, what we have is the greatest fraud ever involving politics and religion.
THE JEWISH WAR, THE WAR OF THE JEWS
To further conceal the fraud by the Flavius family who later aspired to and gained the title of "Caesar", all other writings pertaining to Titus and his father Vespasian were destroyed, including the conspicuous absence of any records by the great historian, Tacitus.
You can obtain a good introduction to the "Flavian Hypothesis" at the link below. Good luck.
More links to information on the evidence of the POST-JOSEPHUS writing of the Gospels.
FLAVIAN HYPOTHESIS - CLIFF CARRINGTON
FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS WAS REALLY ARRIUS PISO
GOOGLE SEARCH - FLAVIAN HYPOTHESIS
Baloney!
ReplyDeleteChristian vs. non is another trap devised by the elite(hate that word, but gets point across). They control the flow of information and insure it's tainted on both sides, so arguments will continue indefinitely, which divide and conquer. Anti-Christian material is used to control the masses just as much as pro. I've met plenty of fervent irrational Christian bashers who are putty shaped into whatever form the media desires.
ReplyDeleteWe don't know what happened two days ago since the majority of media is nonsense. A library is full of WW2 books, most portray Hitler as a madmen, and the alternate ones may defend his positions, but he was a fictitious character. Yet they want people to argue from both positions.
2000 years ago... forget about it! You can come to any conclusion you like, and claim your sources are accurate while your opponents aren't. In the end it's a bunch of fighting about something that cannot be proven. Did Jesus exist, was he an actor, what did he preach? If anybody truly knows, they're likely going to pump out disinformation.
Religion and science when applied in accordance with their respective principles can be highly positive. In reality, things get messy, and both are used to scam or judge others. Although I'm not Christian, I acknowledge the story of Christ elucidates metaphysical concepts, and I've seen it positively transform people, and diminish suffering. Are these principles true that transform people? Well, that's why you need faith.
The "story of Christ" is not in question. The historical validity is. We must work with what we have. The problem I am attacking is the LACK of disclosure for nefarious purposes. That's all. I know the truth is available; hence, we must not give up looking, ever. If that is what you wish to do, then so be it. As for me, I will not stop. Catch me if you can...
DeleteIn my mind; stating you know the truth is available is akin to stating you know Christ died for your sins. It's a declaration of faith. What we have to work with is beyond dubious. History is commentary on past tense media. The people cited for having the truth are the Keith Olbermanns and Max Keisers of the past. Now if you had a photograph of Jesus, measured the ear, and it matched Tony Greenberg's then you would have something.
DeleteI know somebody who researched this and claimed Christianity was a grass-roots movement that the Romans co-opted, once it became large and threatened their power structure. In his opinion, Christianity was the worst thing to happen to civilization (he's jewish lol) and they should have stamped this out with an iron boot. To me it's hearsay, maybe it's true, but he can't prove it.
Let's suppose your premise is correct, and Christianity was a Roman invention. How would the world be different if they didn't invent this? In my opinion things would be basically the same, and some other social structures would be created
to perform those functions.
Personally, the inception of Christianity isn't a pressing issue, and I'm not going to sift through piles of bunk to get to more bunk. Although some of it may be fascinating. A more interesting issue for me is how the elite utilize rifts between different belief systems to implement their agenda.
Not sure what you mean by catch me if you can. Maybe it's a reference that's over my head. Taken literally, it would be impossible for me to catch you. And if I could why would I want to? Possessing your self is a full time job, and I don't need any more work.
Interesting blog glad it's on the net.
http://www.mesacc.edu/~davpy35701/text/platodeath.html
DeleteMy dear reader: I have never stated I know the truth. But what little I do know, I will share with you. Don't take yourself too seriously. Cheers.
The Flavians moved the events from 70 A.D. to 33 A.D. as a ruse to crush Jewish uprisings , i.e. Maccabean wars. Josephus is the only "historical" reference to
Deletethe historicity of the story besides the four conflicting gospels. This would be thesame m/o Ed talks about in today's media circus. Take a look at Joseph Atwell's
work.
Not trying to belittle your search for truth, just saying it's hard for me to accept any version of history.
ReplyDeleteThen don't. Skepticism is a noble path, but a futile one if sometimes you don't stop to concede your own conceit. There is no point to anything...except that with which we infuse meaning. We create our own reality. What did you create today?
DeleteSir,
DeleteAre you willing to at least admit that you "could" be wrong?
Wrong about what, sir? That institutional religions like Christianity are not only fake and unnecessary, but that they have had their day and usefulness and it's time to move on? No, on those points, I am unmoved. We must learn to separate ethics and morality from religion. They are not the same thing. One leads us to progress, the other to the comfort only of our childish need for fairy tales. But I do suspect that the inner circle of the elite who hold this information from us at ransom do not want you to realize this. It is not in their economic interests for the masses to be truly educated or self-motivated, is it? If there is a God (and I do believe in God, just not your particular idea of what God is) it/him/her most absolutely and certainly did not write the Bible.
Delete"But I do suspect that the inner circle of the elite who hold this information from us at ransom do not want you to realize this."
DeleteJames, it seems you have given these "elite" power over you that they had not
had before. Your hoax is a hoax. Priestcraft is a fiction, James. With what
object or personal advantage would a world-wide body of "elite" seek to impose
themselves upon a people and keep them in intellectual, political and social
subjection other than the love of money ???
In separating morality from religion you may have inadvertently separated
your self-realization from reality. We are all on an equal footing down here.
RbM
Eso responde, las religiones son falsas e innecesarias, eso es suficiente, falsa innecesaria…
DeleteSome people might want to check out Austrailian Author Tony Busby own research into christianity and its history and then decide for yourself. To me it is all fraud and today is one of the biggest money making scams on this planet using fear that you will go to hell if you don't give them money.
ReplyDeleteYes, I'm very familiar with Tony's "Bible is a Fraud" book. There is some uncertainty on the authenticity of the author's existence, but in the end, it's not the messenger, but the message that is important...
DeleteI don't give them money, and I'm not afraid to go to hell, none the less - I love Jesus Christ, and I do believe he has come in the flesh, I believe that every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is LORD to the GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER! AMEN AMEN AND AMEN!
ReplyDeleteBeen seeing this Atwill guy pop up all over the place with his little theory. (Oh, and he charges money for those interested in truth). There is another who was way ahead of this guy and she didn't charge a thing, google her, Susan Maureen Brandt, before she is scrubbed from the net.
ReplyDeleteX-Disciple,
ReplyDeleteWanted to catch up with you about all of this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNYIIPkzdEE
http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/index.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMplPvA7k
RbM
so then what happens when you die? nothing? is there an afterlife?
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